Joe Saenz seems to want to forget he is a father, at age 55 he is twenty years older than the mother of his young child yet he behaves worse than any teenager, when she calls to ask him to send belated child support he cusses her out, even his older druggie friends have attacked her when she called what was her home, trying to find out when Joe would send the court ordered child support and why Joe has abandoned his son, we think it’s because of his “clientele” he has staying at what was our home, he claims to have an outfitting business, yet it is more like an escort service for lonely/horny ladies, mostly married who take overnight horseback rides w/ good ol’ Joe in the Gila National forest of New Mexico,

We cannot come back to what was our home, good ol’ “dad” has a “lady” there so his four year old son is not welcome, also he cannot afford the pathetic amount of child support he is court ordered to pay, of course he can afford to take his “ladies” out on his “rides”, dinner,dancing, also he can still afford his marijuana….

THIS “DAD” is a PRIME EXAMPLE of LOWLIFE DEADBEAT ONLINE PREDATOR, we lived together, i left w/ our four year old son to visit family, Joe first left tearful messages saying how much he loved and missed us, then after a few weeks he hooked up w/ some online “lady” and then he changed his tune,
not that this would come as any surprise, this guy treated me like dirt when i was 81/2 months pregnant w/ his child, he was very abusive, decided to go on a vacation w/ a woman he had met online to NY instead of being there for his son’s birth, he claimed the WHOLE TIME this lady was a “client”– found later the pathetic “love” notes to her and photos proving Joe to be quite the pathological liar, how sad to not be there for the birth of your child! Joe did not stop there, he then had other little affairs , w/ women less than half his age, have talked to them, they are cool and very willing to help me in court against this pathetic old goat of a ‘man” he cannot pay child support–YET– Joe has no problem booking a flight to MANCHESTER ENGLAND so he can have more sex with an european tourist he had just met on one of his “Apache Wilderness Rides” he was loaded w/ gifts for this lady and her family yet never spent one dime on his newborn son, he lied about where he had been of course, said he did “not believe in Christmas” when asked why he sent NOTHING for his son, hmmm, just like birthdays, seems good ol’ Joe only believes in gifts for the white ladies he meets online that go on his “wilderness rides”..

Joe Saenz aka Joseluis Saenz aka Wolfhorse thinks the “ladies” he meets online are more important than his own flesh and blood four year old son,
It is JUST PLAIN CREEPY how this old man operates, he has personal adds up EVERYWHERE stating he is looking for that “sweet smile”

he has the perfect occupation for meeting women, a recreational outfitter who claims to be Apache who takes tourists on horseback into the beautiful yet rugged wilderness of southwestern New Mexico, the man is 20 years my senior, thought he loved me, had his child, he was abusive, forgave him, we went back to start again as a family, he promised the moon, said he’d make up for all the times he wasn’t there for us, we went back to what had been our home only to discover there had been many “exclusive” lady clients staying there, actually started to investigate after years of being ignorant/blind, this man had led so many women on, meeting them online whether it was through his website; www.wolfhorseoutfitters.com or dating sites he had profiles on such as; sexsearch.com, greensingles.com, match.com, singlescrowd.com, horseandcountrysingles.com, on every one of these sites he claimed to be single with NO CHILDREN ten years younger than he is and looking for that “sweet smile”, all the while he is telling me he loves me, needs us,etc. he was never there for his son, when i was pregnant he had 3 different affairs that are known to my family, he actually took romantic vacations to New York, Manchester England, Germany and Norway after getting these online “ladies” he had met on dating sites to come to our home,(he ALWAYS CLAIMED THEY WERE STRICTLY CLIENTS) go on “Apache” wilderness rides on horseback ALONE w/ good ol’ Joe….. feel women should not do that to other women, many of his “ladies” were victims also, not knowing anything about his family, yet some of thos “ladies” saw me there 8 1/2 months pregnant with Joe’s child, would love to hear from other women who might have been in the situation of the other woman why any woman would fall for a man who has a pregnant woman he says he loves that he lives with, maybe he told them some whoppers!!! who knows! anyhow, that is only a small slice of the big lie pie, i got smart took photos of all the “love” letters from his “clients” for evidence after finding out about all his cheating ways, recorded him when he attacked me for accidently washing his Valtrex that he had in a plastic baggie in his jeans when doing the laundry, feel i should post his tirades online along with his pleading tearfully for us to come back, we are away from this beast, he finally broke the last straw by breaking my foot, with such force actually exposing bone through the flesh—-he then looked me in the eyes while i’m in shock from the injury saying he didn’t mean to hurt me, his violence towards me was in response to my catching him in another swarmy,unprotected sexual romp (ie “pack trip”) with a white middle aged married client Mrs. Joanne Beaton of Houston,Texas, he met Joanne Beaton on greensingles.com, she stayed at OUR HOME,before their little 7 day/night ride together, she saw us together as a couple, still she was aggressive about getting w/ Joe, pretty sad,Mrs.Beaton has threatened me after i confronted her on her affair with Joe, she is a massage therapist–go figure http://yogalola.com/teachers.html … we will never go back , not that that matters, this man has so many married sugar mamas that cater to him he won’t be lonely for long, ps. his many online dating profile user names include; eagleboy, eagledancer, tsunami, apache2525, chiricahua2525…beware…

This guy is really full of it, at age 55 Joe has a four year old son he refuses to support, he is old enough to be father to the mother of his child, yet more immature than most 16 year old boys,
he is an outfitter who takes “ladies” he meets online either through his website wolfhorseoutfitters.com or sexsearch.com, match.com, greensingles.com, horseandcountry.com on horseback into the Gila National Forest in New Mexico, he has several older “sugar mamas” who he uses as ammunition against the mother of his young son, he beat her,
abandoned his child so he could go on vacation with one of the married “clients” he was having sexual relations with.

to this day,

he refuses to pay the small amount of child support , claims to have no money, yet has cash to go get his drugs, fly to europe to see his “clients” this old man needs to grow up,his family and sugar mamas need to get a clue and stop supporting him abusing his child and the mother of his child